tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5970683153008645393.post2014805020803697876..comments2024-01-09T16:17:22.327-06:00Comments on Bring the Books: My Not-So-Lengthy Journey With Rob BellAdam Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05826908205996140341noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5970683153008645393.post-24121721964513780372008-05-14T08:21:00.000-05:002008-05-14T08:21:00.000-05:00It's more than mere skepticism. You probably would...It's more than mere skepticism. You probably would have let mere skepticism slide Adam. It's relativism. Neat lines and definitions? Sounds like a synonym for truth to me. What he's really saying is the moment you think you have the truth about God you're talking about the wrong God. This is more than just saying that we fallible humans cannot know the true nature of God. Even a fallible human can accidentally stumble onto the true nature of God. If he's real then there is a correct manner of describing him with neat lines and definitions. What he's saying by asserting that if we have a version of God in mind, then it is necessarily the wrong version... is that there IS no correct version of God. That's why we can never be talking about the right God, because there is no right God to talk about. Relativism plain and simple.The heretichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10975079854569187569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5970683153008645393.post-22577435214962252872008-05-12T07:18:00.000-05:002008-05-12T07:18:00.000-05:00In addition to epistemology, man is always trying ...In addition to epistemology, man is always trying to maintain his own autonomy (how is that for a little Van Tilianism). Man doesn't like to give it up. He wants to remain in control. Even if decides to agree with Christianity and "become a Christian" he will do it on his terms. He will go through the doctrines one by one and agree with each on their supposed merits as they appeal to him. If something doesn't make sense or doesn't mesh with what they already believe about the world, so much for that part of Christianity. And the modern man is so, so, loathe to mortify anything that the Bible calls sin which they happen to enjoy.<BR/><BR/>The sad thing is, the thing that modern "Christian" ends up worshiping is not the God of the Bible, but a god of his own making. Of course, they reject everything in the Bible which would speak against what they are doing. That stuff, after all, is so negative and out dated. I mean, didn't you already know that?Steve Tiptonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16103477425957270215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5970683153008645393.post-64204942727348411122008-05-10T19:41:00.000-05:002008-05-10T19:41:00.000-05:00I think part of it is epistemology. The postmoder...I think part of it is epistemology. The postmodern mentality is one of skepticism in almost all areas of life. This includes doctrinal systems, and included in doctrinal systems is, as you pointed out, their doctrine of Scripture.<BR/><BR/>The problem is, even a platform of skepticism is still, itself, a platform. One which, if the skeptic is consistent, he will stand in doubt of. And if your platform is in question, well, you really have no place to stand at all then, do you?<BR/><BR/>Listen, I am all for contextualizing to my culture. I try and do that every time I post on here. But I will fight tooth and nail against someone who wants to throw out <I>substance</I> just because the people around him are uncomfortable with what we have to say.<BR/><BR/>It is possible, for example, to talk to people about hell without using caricature and ridiculous imagery (red man with horns and a pitchfork, anyone). Hell can be argued for substantially. Just because some people have heartache when they think of hell does not make it untrue.<BR/><BR/>I have to stop, now. I'm gushing.Adam Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05826908205996140341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5970683153008645393.post-13440887983903319952008-05-10T15:21:00.000-05:002008-05-10T15:21:00.000-05:00Well, the problem for guys like Bell is that he se...Well, the problem for guys like Bell is that he seems to have a deficient doctrine of revelation. From that sentence, it looks like he may be assuming that we are just making things up as we go along, not basing our theology on what is revealed to us in Scripture. <BR/><BR/>Of course, a robust and defined doctrine of Scripture is just what the emergent guys don't want. They want to talk about "stories" and "feelings" and such.Steve Tiptonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16103477425957270215noreply@blogger.com